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Destinys colours.
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Alan Liefting
2004-08-25 01:41:04 UTC
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What about the hippies that drag their five year old kids to
anti-nuclear or anti-war rallies? No one cares about that, do they? But
when a bunch of christians do it, it is suddenly child abuse. What a
joke. The media is as biased as hell, and the NZ Herald is the worst of
the lot. You hear that Ashley? The paper you work for is run by morons.
As a childless "neo-hippy" (too young to be a real one!) I too question
the use of children in the various causes I have marched on.

There is a bit of a difference however, between De$inty and the peace
and enviro rallies:

1. De$iny has a high priest who makes lots of dosh. The greenie marches
are done for purely altruistic reasons. No money is behind the scenes.

2. The greenies express a wide range of individual styles due to the
broad demographic present.

3. The greenies include mothers who have children in prams. This is
better than using child care. The young tots are too young to be
indoctrinated but as a wonderful consequence they may get the
googoo-gaagaa symaphty vote.

4. De$iny have young teens who are impresionable and when questioned do
not appear to understand the issue. Some of the greenie marches I go on
the teens go voluntarily and understand the cause.
Bobs
2004-08-25 02:37:47 UTC
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Post by Alan Liefting
What about the hippies that drag their five year old kids to
anti-nuclear or anti-war rallies? No one cares about that, do they?
But when a bunch of christians do it, it is suddenly child abuse. What
a joke. The media is as biased as hell, and the NZ Herald is the worst
of the lot. You hear that Ashley? The paper you work for is run by
morons.
As a childless "neo-hippy" (too young to be a real one!) I too question
the use of children in the various causes I have marched on.
How old are you, Alan? I had you pegged for around 40.
Post by Alan Liefting
There is a bit of a difference however, between De$inty and the peace
1. De$iny has a high priest who makes lots of dosh. The greenie marches
are done for purely altruistic reasons. No money is behind the scenes.
What does that have to do with anything?
Post by Alan Liefting
2. The greenies express a wide range of individual styles due to the
broad demographic present.
Broad demographic? As in a bunch of washed up 60's losers and young
university drop outs?
Post by Alan Liefting
3. The greenies include mothers who have children in prams. This is
better than using child care. The young tots are too young to be
indoctrinated but as a wonderful consequence they may get the
googoo-gaagaa symaphty vote.
How is that any different from Destiny? Maybe many of their mothers are
in the same boat?
Post by Alan Liefting
4. De$iny have young teens who are impresionable and when questioned do
not appear to understand the issue. Some of the greenie marches I go on
the teens go voluntarily and understand the cause.
LOL!! There's a reason the Green Party gets most of its support from
University Students. They are the impressionable teens you described.
Young girls mostly, who think that by protecting nature and the
environment, they will protect the future. A nice ethos, but ignorant
and useless in reality. They usually find that out by the time they hit
the real world and work for a living.
--
"I like your flag. Britain at night" Jerry Seinfeld, commenting on the
Aussie flag.
JohnO
2004-08-25 02:46:32 UTC
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Post by Alan Liefting
There is a bit of a difference however, between De$inty and the peace
1. De$iny has a high priest who makes lots of dosh. The greenie marches
are done for purely altruistic reasons. No money is behind the scenes.
Greenpeace is a multi billion dollar turnover multinational organisation. We
see Greenpeace behind the scenes all the time, particularly at anti GE
events.
TomV
2004-08-25 03:00:17 UTC
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Post by JohnO
Post by Alan Liefting
1. De$iny has a high priest who makes lots of dosh. The greenie marches
are done for purely altruistic reasons. No money is behind the scenes.
Greenpeace is a multi billion dollar turnover multinational organisation. We
see Greenpeace behind the scenes all the time, particularly at anti GE
events.
Bullseye!!!

...tom
Alan Liefting
2004-08-25 03:05:09 UTC
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Post by TomV
Post by JohnO
Post by Alan Liefting
1. De$iny has a high priest who makes lots of dosh. The greenie marches
are done for purely altruistic reasons. No money is behind the scenes.
Greenpeace is a multi billion dollar turnover multinational organisation. We
see Greenpeace behind the scenes all the time, particularly at anti GE
events.
Bullseye!!!
...tom
It is not a very apt comparison.
TomV
2004-08-25 03:20:35 UTC
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On Wed, 25 Aug 2004 15:05:09 +1200, Alan Liefting
Post by Alan Liefting
Post by TomV
Post by JohnO
Post by Alan Liefting
1. De$iny has a high priest who makes lots of dosh. The greenie marches
are done for purely altruistic reasons. No money is behind the scenes.
Greenpeace is a multi billion dollar turnover multinational organisation. We
see Greenpeace behind the scenes all the time, particularly at anti GE
events.
Bullseye!!!
...tom
It is not a very apt comparison.
Why not?

...tom
Alan Liefting
2004-08-25 04:00:46 UTC
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Post by TomV
Post by Alan Liefting
Post by TomV
Post by JohnO
Post by Alan Liefting
1. De$iny has a high priest who makes lots of dosh. The greenie marches
are done for purely altruistic reasons. No money is behind the scenes.
Greenpeace is a multi billion dollar turnover multinational organisation. We
see Greenpeace behind the scenes all the time, particularly at anti GE
events.
Bullseye!!!
...tom
It is not a very apt comparison.
Why not?
Greenpeace do not organise the marches I attend. DeStiny Church
organised their march which is a PR stunt to get more members to pay
their subs to big Ccheif Tamaki.
TomV
2004-08-25 04:49:50 UTC
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On Wed, 25 Aug 2004 16:00:46 +1200, Alan Liefting
Post by Alan Liefting
Post by TomV
Post by Alan Liefting
It is not a very apt comparison.
Why not?
Greenpeace do not organise the marches I attend. DeStiny Church
organised their march which is a PR stunt to get more members to pay
their subs to big Ccheif Tamaki.
I think that's unfair. All marches are publicity stunts.

I disagree vehemently with Tamakis position and how he gets funds from
his church, but his beliefs appear sincerely held.

I also disagree strongly with the extreme position of many of the anti
GE crowd, yet their beliefs are also sincerely held.

...tom
Warwick
2004-08-25 05:16:21 UTC
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Post by TomV
I also disagree strongly with the extreme position of many of the anti
GE crowd, yet their beliefs are also sincerely held.
...tom
He sincerly believes god spoke to him and appointed him and his wife as
pastors of the church.
Frankly I find that kind of sincerity suspicious.
If not outright fucking hilarious.

cheers
grimly bubble
2004-08-25 05:31:05 UTC
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Post by Alan Liefting
Post by TomV
Post by Alan Liefting
Post by TomV
Post by JohnO
Post by Alan Liefting
1. De$iny has a high priest who makes lots of dosh. The greenie marches
are done for purely altruistic reasons. No money is behind the scenes.
Greenpeace is a multi billion dollar turnover multinational organisation. We
see Greenpeace behind the scenes all the time, particularly at anti GE
events.
Bullseye!!!
...tom
It is not a very apt comparison.
Why not?
Greenpeace do not organise the marches I attend. DeStiny Church
organised their march which is a PR stunt to get more members to pay
their subs to big Ccheif Tamaki.
So that's why they marched, well how about that.
grimly bubble
2004-08-25 05:30:30 UTC
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Post by Alan Liefting
Post by TomV
Post by JohnO
Post by Alan Liefting
1. De$iny has a high priest who makes lots of dosh. The greenie marches
are done for purely altruistic reasons. No money is behind the scenes.
Greenpeace is a multi billion dollar turnover multinational
organisation. We
Post by Alan Liefting
Post by TomV
Post by JohnO
see Greenpeace behind the scenes all the time, particularly at anti GE
events.
Bullseye!!!
...tom
It is not a very apt comparison.
Why not?
Alan Liefting
2004-08-25 03:03:18 UTC
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Post by JohnO
Post by Alan Liefting
There is a bit of a difference however, between De$inty and the peace
1. De$iny has a high priest who makes lots of dosh. The greenie marches
are done for purely altruistic reasons. No money is behind the scenes.
Greenpeace is a multi billion dollar turnover multinational organisation. We
see Greenpeace behind the scenes all the time, particularly at anti GE
events.
Yep. They hoever serve a useful role.

They are a small part of the protests rather than being the organisers.

De$tinty Church organised their publicity campaign, oops, I mean march.
grimly bubble
2004-08-25 05:30:10 UTC
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Post by JohnO
Post by Alan Liefting
There is a bit of a difference however, between De$inty and the peace
1. De$iny has a high priest who makes lots of dosh. The greenie marches
are done for purely altruistic reasons. No money is behind the scenes.
Greenpeace is a multi billion dollar turnover multinational organisation. We
see Greenpeace behind the scenes all the time, particularly at anti GE
events.
Greenpeace is not a multi billion dollar anything, multi million dollar
world wide but no longer enjoying the wave of public support and credibility
of the 70's and early 80's.
Alan Liefting
2004-08-25 03:00:51 UTC
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Post by Bobs
Post by Alan Liefting
What about the hippies that drag their five year old kids to
anti-nuclear or anti-war rallies? No one cares about that, do they?
But when a bunch of christians do it, it is suddenly child abuse.
What a joke. The media is as biased as hell, and the NZ Herald is the
worst of the lot. You hear that Ashley? The paper you work for is run
by morons.
As a childless "neo-hippy" (too young to be a real one!) I too
question the use of children in the various causes I have marched on.
How old are you, Alan? I had you pegged for around 40.
Good guess. How do you do it!! I am almost 43.
Post by Bobs
Post by Alan Liefting
There is a bit of a difference however, between De$inty and the peace
1. De$iny has a high priest who makes lots of dosh. The greenie
marches are done for purely altruistic reasons. No money is behind
the scenes.
What does that have to do with anything?
"The love of money is the root of all evil." A proverb that predates
the bible.
Post by Bobs
Post by Alan Liefting
2. The greenies express a wide range of individual styles due to the
broad demographic present.
Broad demographic? As in a bunch of washed up 60's losers and young
university drop outs?
And retirees and middle aged workers, some lawyers, Univercity student
(part way through degrees) etc. HAve you been to these marhes to
observe for yourself?
Bobs
2004-08-25 03:07:53 UTC
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Post by Alan Liefting
Post by Bobs
Post by Alan Liefting
What about the hippies that drag their five year old kids to
anti-nuclear or anti-war rallies? No one cares about that, do they?
But when a bunch of christians do it, it is suddenly child abuse.
What a joke. The media is as biased as hell, and the NZ Herald is
the worst of the lot. You hear that Ashley? The paper you work for
is run by morons.
As a childless "neo-hippy" (too young to be a real one!) I too
question the use of children in the various causes I have marched on.
How old are you, Alan? I had you pegged for around 40.
Good guess. How do you do it!! I am almost 43.
I can probably guess everyones age here just by what they post, what
they have posted, and even how they write. Tarla, for example, would be
pushing mid 50's I would say. Ashley, about 40 as well. Col about 50.
Scrooge predates the cosmic universe.
Post by Alan Liefting
Post by Bobs
Post by Alan Liefting
There is a bit of a difference however, between De$inty and the peace
1. De$iny has a high priest who makes lots of dosh. The greenie
marches are done for purely altruistic reasons. No money is behind
the scenes.
What does that have to do with anything?
"The love of money is the root of all evil." A proverb that predates
the bible.
Most of the people that seemed to be marching were from Southern
Auckland and other poorer areas, Alan. I will let you figure that one out.
--
"I like your flag. Britain at night" Jerry Seinfeld, commenting on the
Aussie flag.
Alan Liefting
2004-08-25 03:59:09 UTC
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Post by Bobs
Post by Alan Liefting
Post by Bobs
Post by Alan Liefting
1. De$iny has a high priest who makes lots of dosh. The greenie
marches are done for purely altruistic reasons. No money is behind
the scenes.
What does that have to do with anything?
"The love of money is the root of all evil." A proverb that predates
the bible.
Most of the people that seemed to be marching were from Southern
Auckland and other poorer areas, Alan. I will let you figure that one out.
I was talking about pasta, oops, Pastor Tamaki. It is a PR exercise to
get more members.
Tarla
2004-08-25 04:04:25 UTC
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Post by Bobs
Post by Alan Liefting
Post by Bobs
Post by Alan Liefting
What about the hippies that drag their five year old kids to
anti-nuclear or anti-war rallies? No one cares about that, do they?
But when a bunch of christians do it, it is suddenly child abuse.
What a joke. The media is as biased as hell, and the NZ Herald is
the worst of the lot. You hear that Ashley? The paper you work for
is run by morons.
As a childless "neo-hippy" (too young to be a real one!) I too
question the use of children in the various causes I have marched on.
How old are you, Alan? I had you pegged for around 40.
Good guess. How do you do it!! I am almost 43.
I can probably guess everyones age here just by what they post, what
they have posted, and even how they write. Tarla, for example, would be
pushing mid 50's I would say. Ashley, about 40 as well. Col about 50.
Scrooge predates the cosmic universe.
No guessing involved in my case. I've stated my age on several
occasions. I'm 51.
Post by Bobs
Most of the people that seemed to be marching were from Southern
Auckland and other poorer areas, Alan. I will let you figure that one out.
Religion is the opiate of the masses.
--
Tarla
****
"$30 for the One True Ring. $10 each additional ring!"
- JRR "Bob"Tolkien
Tarla
2004-08-25 03:35:29 UTC
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On Wed, 25 Aug 2004 13:41:04 +1200, Alan Liefting
Post by Alan Liefting
What about the hippies that drag their five year old kids to
anti-nuclear or anti-war rallies? No one cares about that, do they? But
when a bunch of christians do it, it is suddenly child abuse. What a
joke. The media is as biased as hell, and the NZ Herald is the worst of
the lot. You hear that Ashley? The paper you work for is run by morons.
As a childless "neo-hippy" (too young to be a real one!) I too question
the use of children in the various causes I have marched on.
As a person who has taken their child to a protest, and to many other
functions of a democratics society, I wonder what you guys are talking
about. Parents indoctrinate their children. It's a fact. We want them
to grow up with certain principles. I don't have a problem with
Destiny adults bringing their children and allowing them to
participate in a demonstration. There was little threat of violence
and it's a good way to see that the parents back up what they say with
action.
Post by Alan Liefting
3. The greenies include mothers who have children in prams. This is
better than using child care. The young tots are too young to be
indoctrinated but as a wonderful consequence they may get the
googoo-gaagaa symaphty vote.
Used this one to my advantage many times. He also kept me out of jail
once at Diablo Canyon.

--
Tarla
****
"$30 for the One True Ring. $10 each additional ring!"
- JRR "Bob"Tolkien
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