nz.soc.green - dead like the party

[BrentC]

so the EB's were right in those highly accurate pamphlets - now the
greens have sold their principles down the river.

[Adam]

Post by BrentC
so the EB's were right in those highly accurate pamphlets - now the
greens have sold their principles down the river.

I doubt the EBs haven been right about anything. How did they
put it in the actual pamphlet ?

The Green Party is hanging in there, just now.

An interesting question is whether Rodney will be
replaced as leader of ACT, before the election.
Can they do that ?

[Alan Liefting]

Post by Adam

Post by BrentC
so the EB's were right in those highly accurate pamphlets - now the
greens have sold their principles down the river.

I doubt the EBs haven been right about anything. How did they
put it in the actual pamphlet ?

The pamphlet was a bunch of half truths and lies back then as it is now.
See http://www.greens.org.nz/searchdocs/PR9191.html
and http://www.greens.org.nz/searchdocs/other9194.html

* Introduce capital gains on family homes - Outright Lie
* Increase petrol and diesel taxes - increasing diesel prices by 30% -
Half truth
* Introduce a carbon tax, putting petrol prices up by a further 10% -
Half truth
* Support the Kyoto protocol - the one billion dollar bungle - Half truth
* Add 4 new Government ministries, 6 agencies and 5 commissions - more
bureaucrats including a resident artist - Half Truth
* Cut defence spending by 50% and disarm our forces - Outright Lie
* Ban the building of new prisons - True
* Spend roading money on uneconomic and novel public transport systems.
- Outright Lie
* Block construction of vital new roads with tortuous RMA regulations.
- Outright Lie
* Push high country farmers off their lease-hold land.
- Outright Lie
* Permit the right-to-roam over private property
- Outright Lie
* Decriminalise illegal drugs like cannabis (marijuana)
- Half-truth
* Offer financial assistance to cannabis growers for alternative
employment. - Outright Lie
* Create 'rainbow' communities. Legalise adoption for same-sex couples.
- Half-truth
* the Greens voted against protecting private property rights
- Half-truth

Post by Adam
The Green Party is hanging in there, just now.

Until recently the Greens have been the only party polling above 5%.
Also the Greens do not rely on high profile leaders in order to secure a
place in Parliament. That is not to say that the greens will not grab
an electorate seat in the 2008 election...

Alan

[Adam]

Post by Alan Liefting
Until recently the Greens have been the only party polling above 5%.
Also the Greens do not rely on high profile leaders in order to secure a
place in Parliament. That is not to say that the greens will not grab
an electorate seat in the 2008 election...

Well - we seem to have debunked both of BrentC's misconceptions.

For many of us, the Green vote is for a party that will
stick to its guns after election. Winston is poor at this,
so too both Labour and National.

Tandor leaving may help their public image, leading up to
this election.

[Alan Liefting]

Post by BrentC
so the EB's were right in those highly accurate pamphlets - now the
greens have sold their principles down the river.

In what context are you making this comment?


Alan